It's party time!!
We all know the term Safe, Sane and Consensual. It’s the mantra that we operate by in the scene. This is the fine line that separates what we do from abuse.
The scene being what it is, tho, can provide a ripe breeding ground for dysfunction. Coming into the scene as a newbie is scary. If one does not have a firm grasp of what they are seeking, or how to enforce their own boundaries, one can land in hot water very quickly and very easily.
There are many, many good people in the scene. I have had the pleasure to know many and I know there are many more that I have not yet had the pleasure to know. I consider myself lucky in the respect that when I entered the scene about 11 years ago that it was on a small discussion board where I was able to get to know quite a few good people really well before venturing out into real life about 5 years later. This gave me an opportunity to read many pieces that outlined how to be safe when finally venturing out into real life situations, and to watch for consistency in those who seemed to already be interacting in real life. The timing was perfect in the sense that after a few years into the scene, the party aspect of the scene began to explode. By this time, I was more established and pretty certain what I wanted out of the scene and what I did not want, as well as comfortable with my own boundaries enough to shrug anyone off who tried to push past them.
Because of the dynamic of what we do, it can make those who have the potential to be unsafe harder to spot. “Dominance” is part of what we do, and a perfect cover for anyone who may desire to take advantage of or abuse another. If one is a newbie, they are in unfamiliar territory. They may not be fully aware of what is protocol and what is predatory. Their nerves may set them on edge, and they may find it difficult to distinguish whether or not their discomfort is due to a bad situation or just the uncertainty of how to navigate the scene.
If they find themselves in a bad situation, they may be uncertain how to react or extricate themselves from it. They may second guess whether their response is an over-reaction, and feel as if they have nowhere to really turn because they may not feel established enough to be able to get advice from others because they do not have a firm grasp on who is trustworthy and who is not.
They may feel unsure of whether or not it is okay to exert control over their own boundaries when, by the nature of what we do, many times we are ‘giving up control’.
They may try something and find they may not like it, yet feel as if they are not entitled to a change of mind. They may be unsure of exactly what it is that may work for them, and be made to feel as if they are ‘playing a game’ due to their indecision.
We all learn by our continuing experiences. If something doesn’t feel right to you, that is a red flag. Take note of it and proceed with caution. It doesn’t matter if you have made a mistake in the past and gone ahead and allowed something you were not comfortable with because you were unsure of how to assert yourself. It can not be used against you; you are entitled to decide at any time that you no longer want to do something, even if in the past you have allowed it. If someone dismisses you when you communicate this, you need to run far in the opposite direction.
Warning signs of potential danger for the unsure:
- If someone presses for sensitive personal information early on (vanilla relationships, work details, your past etc, ) be cautious! It is natural, as we are getting to know someone, to talk about details regarding ourselves. However, if someone presses for sensitive personal information, and continues to do so even if you express discomfort, beware!
- If someone starts to exert excessive and despotic control over other relationships in the scene, or elsewhere, beware!
- If someone belittles your boundaries or concerns when you state them, beware!
- If someone pushes your boundaries when you have clearly stated them or tries to talk you out of your boundaries, whether psychological or physical, beware!
- If someone uses guilt in order to get you to comply with what they are pushing, beware!
- If someone uses scene speak (saying you are ‘being disrespectful’, or ‘out of line’, or ‘topping from the bottom’ , etc) to avoid confrontation or to ignore stated concerns, beware!
- If someone continually pushes a sexual agenda, or a discipline agenda, when you have stated you are not interested in such, beware!
- If someone insists on not using safewords because it wouldn’t be a ‘real punishment’, beware!
- If you suspect you are being alienated from others you already know, or are being held back from branching out and getting to know others in the scene, beware!
- If you are constantly being reminded of the information they know about you, beware!
- If concerns or discomfort you express are turned around to be made into your fault, beware!
- If a person pushes for pictures, especially early on, and continues to insist or makes you feel silly even if you express discomfort, beware!
- If a person constantly talks about all their ‘good friends’ in the scene but you really do not see much true interaction to back it up, beware!
- If their public persona and their private persona are not consistent, beware!!
Everyone is entitled to their boundaries; be unapologetic about yours!! If you are not fully aware of what your boundaries are as a newbie, know that you are fully entitled to change what you want to engage in at any time, even if you have allowed something in the past. You are responsible for communication! The above list is not an assumption of mind reading. You must state what you want/do not want. If you are unsure, say so and reserve the right to change your mind. Even if you are starting out in a D/s relationship. If it doesn't feel right, insist on being heard!
Someone exhibiting an 'off' behavior is simply a red flag, but not always an indicator of a predator. It should simply be an indicator to step back a bit and re-examine what is going on and explore why a certain behavior has thrown up a red flag inside of you.
I recall once years ago chatting with a guy online. He volunteered certain information about himself during conversation, including his location and his last name. When he asked me for mine, I stated I was not comfortable sharing that information. He got really angry and tried to guilt me, saying he had shared his information and I should do the same. I pointed out that the difference was that he volunteered his information; I had not asked him to share any of that with me, therefore I was not obligated to share with him. I wouldn't ask for that because I, myself, was not okay with sharing it about myself. He got over it, and we actually became very close friends. Two years later, I actually had given him that information about me, as we would send packages back and forth to one another, and I trusted him with it. That one incidence of trying to guilt me into doing something I was not comfortable with doing did cause me to back off a bit, but I stuck to my boundary. A flag went up at that, as it should have. However, that one particular incident did not define him, and it wasn't something that he did again after I simply stated what my boundaries were and made clear I would not move from them.
The bad thing is, predators are usually skilled manipulators. They will lie without thought as long as they get what they want. Can women be manipulators? You better believe it, and some of the above can apply to them as well! But in this genre of what we do, it’s generally a dominant who is able to exercise such control under the notion of “D/s”. And I am addressing this issue from the perspective of a submissive/bottom in the scene.
Some people do want extreme control wielded over them, and that is their bag and not what I am addressing. What I am addressing above has to do with being targeted because you are new, and unsure and someone latches onto that vulnerability and makes that into an opportunity to exert domineering control for their own pleasure without regards to what you want. You may be strong and assertive in other areas of your life and think it can not happen to you. It can!! There is something about this genre that can sometimes cause us to throw out our normal radars and safeguards because we desire to let go in a safe way. You can not afford to do that, not when starting to get your feet wet or just getting to know someone. Even if someone you thought you knew well starts exhibiting certain behaviors listed above, and you have not agreed to it or feel coerced into agreeing, please take a step back to rethink things.
Communication is essential to what we do. Do not be dismissed, or bullied!
Be safe!
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Sarah I stumbled on this through your Fet Life profile and I have just one thing to say : WOW!
All right, I have more than one thing to say here. I wish I had read something like this when I was a newbie. It can truly be like being in a shark tank when your new! After a few play partners that were just casual I met this man on the personals. All of those bewares you list, in hindsight he had nearly all of them xcept for the pictures.
Let me tell you my story and hopefully the comment section will allow it to go through. I was new and kind of had an idea in fantasy what I wanted but to real world experience in the matter. The 1st shocker to newbies can be that fantasy and reality are so much different! I realize now I needed someone safe to guide me through. This is what this guy offered to do, to protect me from wolves and sharks that were out there. I would also add that those phrase words "I will protect you from the sharks" should be a red flag too. When entering the scene, protection should be about guidance and help with navigation, not cutting you off entirely from exploring. Which is what happened to me, just as you describe. Despotic control, yup, that is what is was. It didn't happen overnight. At first I was so enamored by findng someone willing to show me the way, and finally able to get my feet wet and be part of the bigger scene. I dreamed of going to parties but knew I was too shy to go alone not knowing anyone.
That excitement turned into a nightmare. My boundaries were continuously ignored. When I decided after trying something that it wasn't for me, there WAS a guilt trip. I had already allowed it, the expectation was there, and he even said to me "What about what *I* want???" He often told me I was playing a game because I was still uncertain what worked for me, because I had no experience. Yet he had offered to help me find what worked for me, and told me I was playing a game when I decided after an experience something wasn't working, if it was something HE wanted. I was told I was being disrespectful on a number of occasions for bringing up my discomfort. That I wanted to find out what Ds was and then didn't want to adhere to it. As you can imagine this left me awfully confused. I DID want to experience Ds, so I chalked it up to my just being nervous about the unknown and being uncertain about how I was supposed to act. Thus my red flags were successfully ignored by him turning around on me that my discomfort was not his doing but my own inadequacy as a submissive. I was told on a constant basis that I was just being silly, or "thats not how it works"
(TBC due to being too wordy!)
continued from above because I am obtuse.
There was insane jealousy over talking to others, even females. He wanted to see all my yahoo messenger conversations and e-mail pertaining to TTWD. I was HIS, according to him, and therefore he was entitled. He would wait until I was close to subspace and start to get all handsey and try sexual stuff that was very clearly off limits per our supposed agreement that he vowed to honor. Then he tried to say he thought he was reading that I wanted it from him. Really?? When I am nearly catatonic and unable to process information? Loser. (as you can see, I am still pissed when thinking about the experience)
It really is very similar to abuse. When your in it, you second guess yourself constantly about weather you are interpreting the situation correctly or being paranoid. If someone knows what they are doing, they know this. They throw in the nice, peaceful fun moments too. Moments where they seem quite sane and likeable. This further made me doubt my own instincts. Plus I had someone with SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE supposedly telling me this is how the Ds worked, this was the real deal. I have sense learned it is not, not unless you actually want it that way. I have learned a lot ssense then now that I have been very active for a good long while. I have also learned to spot it ten miles away. It is scary how much it seems there is out there. This really is an important topic and one nobody wants to talk about because nobody wants to appear to be judging behaviors. Have been in that boat, I stay far away if I even have a slight suspicion someone is like that. It was painful enough the first time!!
I am sorry this is a book. Thank you for the list. If it helps even one person avoid what I went through that is a godsend!!
I will not state my name for privacy. I do not wish my stalker to see!!!! I will say this - I will meet you soon! :)
Sarah this is an excellent article. I think you should also post it in your writings section on fetlife.
Unfortunately these situations happen more often than people know. I have heard similar stories from members of our FMS group.
Several years ago (as you know) I ran into a similar situation with a young girl. It was a long and involved story but it ended with my husband and me having to drive to Georgia so the girl could get her car. He had stopped her from getting it when she had planned and also told her that the person who was going to be with would be trespassing if she entered the property. That meant her going in alone. It was a five acre property in the woods and very secluded.
This man had already shown his real intentions towards this girl including wanting to control her finances. There was no way she was going there alone. My husband and I watched as she walked up to the door. The mans live in girlfriend opened the door and as she did the man walked from around the side of the house and approached her from behind. The interesting thing was he didn’t have his hat on. This man NEVER left the house without his hat. At this point my husband intercepted him. The look on his face at seeing my husband there was pure shock.
We left with the young girl and her car and all ended well but I can’t help wondering what would have happened if we had not been there. It had looked very suspicious to me.
Anyone who has been in this situation needs to talk to others about it. This may be a very wide community but it but its small enough for it to be very well connected. Word spreads fast. At the very least it may slow them down or even possibly stop them.
Andrea
Although almost all of my experiences in the scene have been great, I have had a couple of bad ones. One of them I will describe here.
When I first got in the scene 3 years ago or so, it was because of the recommendations of my doctor. He did not realize there WAS an adult scene that wasn't sexual. He simply made the statement that it was too bad I had my accident when I was an adult rather than when I was a kid because I really needed some good spankings. At that time, I was making some bad choices, and he believed I could have used some spankings to mend my ways. He was serious and made it clear that he was. Thus I bought my first computer and began to search. WOW! I never expected what I found on the internet.
The first person(s) I met online were of great help, I could tell they were safe, sane, reasonable people - both with how at ease I was, not pushy to meet, etc. They were patient with all my questions and never hurried or rush things.
However, the first person I met in real life had some issues that I didn't realize until I was sucked into their web. Once I was in, I had no idea to get out. I tried to bring it up once to one of my safe top friends, but I ended up saying not what I intended and it basically flopped from there. At the same time, I was afraid to say anything because of how well known this person was. So I was hoping if I could get to talking to my sane friend, he would be able to ask the right things to bring it out of me. I flopped the whole deal and it never went further. My fault. No one can read minds.
(to be continued)
(part 2)
I met this top real life at a friend's house and the first thing he said to me - in a whisper in my ear- (after suddenly putting his hands down the back of my pants, squeezing my ass, and saying, "Did I just do that?" looking around like a caught school boy. I was speechless. My first thought was WTF??) was his spankee, who was my friend, was a cunt and a whore and why in the world did I consider her my friend.
So let's see... new spankee...first time meeting.. inappropriate touching at the first time meeting (my friend had left the room so we could have a private session)... her disciplinarian calling her names.... I mean she was/is my friend. I was rendered speechless.
It only escalated from there. He decided to start calling multiple times a day. And multiple times a night. At times, he would yell and scream on the phone about my friend, then tell me to call him back and keep calling every (and he'd give a time) 30 minutes or whatever until he answered and to NOT leave a message. Or to text him. Or whatever. I couldn't figure out why the hell he'd ask this. But I'd do it. Or he would scream and yell on the phone about what I should think and say, then tell me he'd check up with me on IM later.
I knew this was all fucked up. Yet, just like my last bad experience, he was well known and I thought he was well respected. He would even tell me this when I would jokingly ask him, "What would others think if they knew you acted like that?" He'd laugh back and say, "Who is going to believe you? I'm well known and have a reputation and you are not known at all." In addition, I didn't know how to NOT hurt my friend over the situation. The things he would say about her were so awful, I could never bring myself to tell her. So I sucked it up, did what he asked, wrote what he demanded, called when he said, and took his almost nightly 2 or 3 phone calls all through the night, and said what he wanted me to say. Eventually some things came out and I pretty easily eased into not communicating.
(part 3)
However, my friend, who loved him dearly, is still convinced that he loved her, that I am one of the sources of their breakup. I'm not. But he has convinced her I did. She does not know the extent of his brainwashing me and the many times he screamed and yelled and how I shut down, only to do, say, act like he demanded. Partly it was to protect her, in a twisted sort of way, and partly because I had absolutely no idea how to get out - or even how to talk to anyone to get out. My father was a yeller and a screamer and I tend to totally shut down when that happens. I never told her of the many times he'd call at 11pm, then again around 1am and again at around 4am. Or of the many horrible names he would call her in those hours. Or of the many things he demanded I say or do. Now I see it was to wear me down, which he did perfectly. The thing is, this person was not a monster all the time. It was interspersed with joking and fun conversations at times.
I am not proud of how I responded to this bullying. And I've had another experience that was also not good. Both experiences, in my vanilla and scene life demonstrate the low point character in my life, in that I so "willingly" did what was asked - yet at the same time, I had no idea how to make it stop and I knew what was happening to me was wrong. In my vanilla life I wouldn't have given it a second thought to blow these people off. Yet in my scene life, I became subservient, cowering, and unable to speak up for myself. I am definitely not proud of this.
A part of me hopes the top that I DID try to contact about this reads it and puts two and two together that this is what I was trying to lead to in those fumbled conversations that caused such a flop. I wish I had had the character to spell out what was going on. I didn't.
(post 4)
I hope in the future I have the character to tell a person like this to “f” off at the first sign of splelunking fingers, of using/abusing, or of anything else I am not comfortable with. I'm getting better. But I still wish I had had the ability to convey what was happening to my safe/sane tops - or that they would have somehow read my mind and "covered me with their wings" for a short period. Not in a demanding way, but just someone to be a sounding board for my own decisions kind of thing. To go through this is hard enough as an adult. To go through it while navigating the nuances of a head injury was devastating.
Several years have past and you will be happy to know neuro-psych testing has shown my head injury to be mostly resolved, with very mild residual & I don't really feel the need for discipline, except on an extremely once in a while, one spanking here and there, basis. I never wanted someone to keep track of me anyway. I really only wanted friends, with the knowledge that if I got out of line, on that rare occasion, it would be. dealt with. Occasionally. Very occasionally. Now I have only my spinal cord injury to content with - and hopefully some nice, sane, safe tops (and bottoms) who will befriend me or re-befriend me.
Sorry for the long comment. I started writing and couldn't stop, lol. Good post.
Thank you, gals. I will have more to say later, but thank you for sharing.
sarah
As always, excellent writing and excellent information, Sarah! :-)
Debs
Way to go Sarah! This was a page out of my own book of what I preach to others over on Fetlife in my "Spankoholics Anonymous" group .. Kudos to you for putting it so succinctly! ~Zelle
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